[silence] Messiaen & Cage

[Kraig Grady]

Xenakis shows how 'chance' produces structure also.
 If what you wanted was "entropy" you would need a myriad of 
irreconcilable ordering systems.
Rudolf Arnheim's small little 65 page book "Entropy and Art" deals quite 
well with the fact that homogeneous randomness is anything but Entropy.
 I would be curious if Cage ever changed his "methods" within a single piece
 

Glenn Freeman wrote:
> Yes. It seems employing chance procedures to produce very strictly  
> organized music is what Cage did.
>
> With Schoenberg and Messiaen the procedures were different, but  
> sometimes the results might end up sounding similar. Trying to  
> transcribe bird calls into music, for instance, might be viewed as a  
> quasi-chance/serial procedure.
>
> Rob Haskins wrote:
>
>   
>> I think that the idea of "anti-organization" in Cage is very  
>> misleading.
>>     
>
> --
> To join or leave the Silence mailing list, please go to https://list.mail.virginia.edu/mailman/listinfo/silence.
> You can find searchable list archives at http://list.mail.virginia.edu/pipermail/silence/
>
>
>   

-- 
Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/index.html>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles