[silence] Messiaen & Cage

[David P Miller]

Hello, Carl --

Yes, now I see what you mean. Thank you!

Best wishes,

David

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Carl Heppenstall wrote:

> Hi, David,
>
> I did not intend to dismiss the purposeful lack of organization of some forms of serialism or chance operations, nor did I mean to imply that "cage is done."  I was merely reflecting that for me, when people create music with the intent on making perfect systems that destroy the perception of organization, the consequence is often music that can only be appreciated for the technical aspects, and for me, have very little of what I enjoy hearing in music that is created out of the stillness to which Cage often indirectly referred.
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: David P Miller<mailto:dpmiller@world.std.com>
>  To: Carl Heppenstall<mailto:Heppenstall_at_KC@msn.com>
>  Cc: silence@list.mail.virginia.edu<mailto:silence@list.mail.virginia.edu>
>  Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:35 AM
>  Subject: Re: [silence] Messiaen & Cage
>
>  Hello, Carl --
>
>  I'm curious to know a little bit more about what you mean:
>
>  On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Carl Heppenstall wrote:
>
>  > Ralph, Very interesting.
>  >
>  > Generally, the organization and nature of the organization probably interests me more than a purposeful lack of organization, but in the end, however the music is created, it must reflect our chaotic or "un-conscious" interaction with the natural stillness of the universe for me to enjoy it.  Often we get so caught up in the technical mastery of what is getting created and we lose one of the purposes of art - creating music that can reach the soul.
>  >
>  > Cage did his work at getting us to listen to the natural stillness and the space and things interacting with and underlying our consciousness, but once that mission was accomplished, why do we need to continue to create similar art that merely points to the thing but is not reflective of the thing?
>
>  Do you really mean that Cage's work has been "accomplished" for good and
>  all, for all persons and all time (just to put it starkly)? Aside from the
>  fact that he passed away, I mean.
>
>  > Best Regards,
>  > Carl
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  David M.
>  dpmiller@world.std.com<mailto:dpmiller@world.std.com>