[silence] Messiaen & Cage

[john saylor]

hi

i am unaware of any comment by cage on messiaen. but my knowledge on
this topic is far from complete.

On 3/29/07, Ralph Lichtensteiger <lichtconlon@t-online.de> wrote:
> they had strong similarities:

they also had profound differences.

messaien's catholicism and cage's [american] zen

messaien was not as comfortable with 'sound as sound' as cage was. for
instance, he brought non-musical sounds into his music [birdsong] by
notating them for a wind ensemble. cage just opened up the listening
'canvas' and if a bird happened to be singing, well that was
wonderful.

i think messaien was much more interested in control than cage was.

and messaien was more facile with the traditional eurpoean classical
music than cage ever was [taught at the paris conservatoire].

i just don't see cage becoming obsessed with modes [or rhythms] of
limited transposition in same was that messaien was.

an excellent question- i don't seem to have an answer though ...

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