[silence] Re. Atla E

[Ingvar Loco Nordin]

Hi there Petr!

Nice to hear you up front, taking on the ignorants! Seriously, great  
to get comments from you! I know you've recorded Atlas E with the  
S.E.M. In fact, I ordered it from Amazon, and it's on its way to me now.

Well, I'm not the one to discuss this issue with you, since I don't  
know much about this piece, I'm sorry to say. I'll just record and  
photograph. I know I saw a CONDUCTOR SCORE (Edition Peters No. 6782)  
at the first meeting of the orchestra, but I know that each  
instumentalist or instumentalist group then study their parts  
individually. These instrumental groups in fact are supposed to meet  
several times to reherase, and then there are a few "tutti"  
rehersals, when all play the work together.

Mats Persson (Do you know him? He's very knowledgable, often plays in  
duo with Kristine Scholz) will lead the study. He says that the  
recording you made in 1992  is the best one yet. If you'd care to  
send him some thoughts, please do, he'd appreciate that a lot, and  
this way you have a chance to influence the May 25 performance for  
the better.  His address is:

matsper@bredband.net

When I said "according to the score", I was very uncareful! I meant  
that the orchestra would play the INSTRUMENTS that are specified in  
the conductor score. This came up in Stockholm, since, originally,  
the Great Learning Orchestra would play the work, but they demanded  
to be able to change the instruments, and use other instruments, not  
specified in Cage's notes. Mats Persson wouldn't have this, and he  
found musicians who would play the specified instruments. That's why  
I made that remark, which otherwise seems out of place!

Mats Persson does not want to use a clock for the clock... He says  
that the contact in the room between "the clock" and the performers  
might be important. Otherwise, a clock has been suggested by some. A  
dancer came up, not because of Cunningham, but because it is very  
strenuous to wave your arms like that, slowly, and dancers are  
usually strong... Mats is talking about a possible duration of 80  
minutes. I suggest you write to Mats about the clock issue, because  
your ideas here seem to be a little different than Mats', and I know  
he respects you a lot. You might tell him we had this Internet exchage!

My best wishes,

Ingvar

> Dear Ingvar,
> What do you mean ³according to the score!² ??? Atlas does not have  
> a score,
> there are just solo parts. Rehearsals (with the orchestra) are  
> useless, one
> should work with each musician individually on his/her solo. What  
> do you
> need a dancer for? Are you trying to imitate the arrangement Cage  
> made with
> Cunningham in 1950s? You would have to be Cage and Cunningham, or have
> comparable experiences. Don¹t imitate anything without  
> understanding the
> circumstances! If you want to perform the piece precisely according  
> to the
> clock, then the musicians can simply follow stopwatches. If you  
> want to have
> a conductor  i.e. having the possibility to tempo changes, tfor his  
> you
> need someone who has an intimate knowledge of the music. By that, I  
> mean
> musical knowledge, which is mostly a years-long experience with it  
> (Would
> you like to listen to a performance of Mozart by someone who has  
> never done
> it before, or just very little, but read a lot of books about it? I  
> don¹t
> think so. What makes you think that it is different in the case of  
> Cage?).
> Just a few friendly remarks.
> Yours,
> PK
>
> On 4/19/08 4:34 PM, "Ingvar Loco Nordin"  
> <loco.nordin@mbox200.swipnet.se>
> wrote:
>
>> t is performed at the Music Museum in Stockholm, Sweden on 25 May,  
>> 3 PM, if
>> you're around! Mats Persson is leading the rehearsals, and it's  
>> being done
>> according to the score! I'm doing the documentation, i.e.  
>> recording and
>> photographing. We're looking for a strong and fit dancer for the  
>> clock part! Loco




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