[silence] to gf/pk/jz and other participantsRE: silence Digest, Vol 79, Issue 12

[Glenn Freeman]

Hi Neal,

If curiosity and genuine interest/knowledge were lacking why would we  
(me, Petr, Brian, etc.) choose to perform and record so many Cage  
works? I see various different methods, all equally valid. My point  
has more to do with how we interact with orchestral players, etc. who  
have no idea about Cage. In terms of the Number Pieces I have  
suggested, based on experience, that everything is in the music itself  
and that this was Cage's intent. I am also suggesting that perhaps due  
to his own past experiences with conductors, players, etc. and his own  
learning process, that Cage revised his way of writing for orchestral  
players and other musicians dramatically in these late works. I find  
these to be the works of a master composer who had learned from a  
lifetime of experimentation how to write everything down clearly for  
everyone, while achieving what he sought to achieve. I find the  
results and clarity of musical thought astonishing. Of course, some  
will disagree and that is fine. That is all. I find fault with no one.  
If I offended anyone by suggesting what I suggest, it is not my  
intent. I am offended by no one. If I were easily offended I would  
have stopped recording these works a long time ago.

There are various ways to learn: via teachers, via experience and via  
a combination of both. No one way is better. It simply depends on each  
situation and each person.

Glenn

On Dec 14, 2008, at 8:48pm, Neal W. Meyer wrote:

> I guess what is most essential to me in Cage performance is a good  
> faith engagement with the score, which I think must always include  
> genuine curiosity and interest in how others have done it, and  
> especially in what Cage was interested in. That's what I find  
> lacking in Glenn Freeman's take, at least as expressed in this  
> thread. Also, Cage invites a liberated imaginative engagement in a  
> way that other composers don't always do, and if that active playful  
> attitude is not present and encouraged, I don't think such a  
> performance is going to be authentically Cagean. That's where I'd  
> find fault with Petr Kotik, at least as presented in this thread.

Glenn Freeman
OgreOgress productions
http://ogreogress.com
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